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Feb 19, 2008 4:43:51 GMT -5
Post by Spammich on Feb 19, 2008 4:43:51 GMT -5
Precisely, though there is still some really good yaoi, and the old school shounen-ai still rocks my world, I'm talking about Juvenile Orion and Demon Diary bitches. And series like Descendants of Darkness and even Loveless (which I still have mixed feelings about though I love the new twists it is having, and I've been addicted to the art since book one...) are fairly recent and still ongoing and I enjoy them. I think it has to do with the writer/artist... Because I like some of the one book shorts that have come out like The Day I BEcame a Butterfly, which didn't have that much sex in it, but the mental progression of both sides of the three relationships one of which was heterosexual...
I mean, the thing I can't stand the most about Yaoi is the rabid fangirls that freak out so much about it that they right and draw their own and get it published because it is what those girls want. I personally don't want it. I don't like Yaoi that is nothing but comedic gags... Like I'll Be Your Slave, I bought it because the title sounded good but when I read it I was like... O...k... WTF? Like I sadi though, I'm going to drag my books with me to AX for you guys to read through if you want, and I'll even let some of you borrow certain series (if I'm feeling generous... Manga is Expensive >,<) I've found a lot of better stuff online. Like Pandect I loved though I haven't been able to read it because the comic mainpage attacks my computer with a vengence for some reason, Vampirates Which is my ultimate favorite online manga, and Honeydew Syndrome which is fairly new and sketchy, but it also has a nice plot thus far and the artist has a sauciness that I absolutely adore.
Clover you know how I feel about this stuff, because the four of us tried to attend that Yaoi Panel at AN last year and we left because it was so stupid. All those other girls? WTF? I was hoping for some real insight on male homosexual relationships because I wanted to try writing a manga. I wasn't interested in if those boys were "seme" or "uke" or the last time they had sex... I mean please! =/
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Feb 19, 2008 19:57:17 GMT -5
Post by AndrogynousMelon on Feb 19, 2008 19:57:17 GMT -5
That's the issue with most fandoms though. Idiots. I think I've said this somewhere on the forums before, actually. A big problem I have with the yaoi community is how EVERY male friendship is really secretly a yaoi pairing. There can't be any kind of tension between characters, there can't be platonic relations- they're all actually TOTATLLY gay for eachother. Drives me up the fucking wall because it totally undermines plot and character development, most of the time. And if I were to see someone doing that to my head babies I'd probably kill somebody. It's fucking obnoxious.
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Feb 19, 2008 20:02:05 GMT -5
Post by child-of-fae on Feb 19, 2008 20:02:05 GMT -5
i still have my convention cherry. =o
although i've been toying with the idea of going as Lady from DMC universe for halloween. (yes, i do enjoy planning my costumes ahead of time)
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Feb 20, 2008 1:31:59 GMT -5
Post by Aindel on Feb 20, 2008 1:31:59 GMT -5
Yeah, obsessive yaoi fangirls scare me. Especially working the game shows at CN, when they're loud and screechy and ...ugh! *shudder* I had a conversation with Vic Mignona about this once. He feels the same way (gee, wonder why. Couldn't possibly be all the Roy/Ed floating around on the internet courtesy of Fullmetal Alchemist yaoi fans).
I'll admit, I like the odd shouldn't-actually-be-a-pairing (like Kyo and Yuki, for reasons unknown even to me). But then you have things like the Final Fantasy yaoi pairings. Most of these are just -asking- to be done, what with some of the dialogue. So really, it depends on the fandom whether or not I join in the discussion or bash my head against the nearest pointy surface.
In other news, this will be my first cosplay this summer! Yays!
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Feb 20, 2008 14:15:29 GMT -5
Post by Rick Garcia on Feb 20, 2008 14:15:29 GMT -5
Hooray! Me too!
Ew, obsessive yaoi fangirls with their yaoi paddles and whatnot. *shakes head in disgust* Obsessive, screechy fanboys and fangirls in general are kind of annoying. "LOL KAWAII DESU!!!!!!1! NEKO BAKA NEKO KAWAII!" -_-
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Feb 20, 2008 18:08:06 GMT -5
Post by Aindel on Feb 20, 2008 18:08:06 GMT -5
Wow. That actually made my eyes bleed a little. That would be the point in fanfics where I scream loudly and hit the back button as fast and hard as I possibly can.
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Feb 20, 2008 21:45:42 GMT -5
Post by Rick Garcia on Feb 20, 2008 21:45:42 GMT -5
Agreed. XD
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Feb 20, 2008 22:41:24 GMT -5
Post by child-of-fae on Feb 20, 2008 22:41:24 GMT -5
have you guys ever read a fanfic where it was just so horrible and OOC or the mary sue was just too...UGH! that you cried a bit?
like, literally, your eyes started to tear because it was just -that- bad.
i have. eugh.
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Feb 21, 2008 0:11:27 GMT -5
Post by Aindel on Feb 21, 2008 0:11:27 GMT -5
I find that by the time I realize that a character is OOC, the fic itself is so well-established that I don't care. AU is good for that. And Mary Sue... oh god. I don't touch any fanfic that has Original Characters in it. Unfortunately, I'm probably missing out on a couple good fics. But at least I've saved my retinas. I do some beta work on ffnet, and I had someone message me one time asking me to look at their stuff (they'd read my work, and wanted some feedback on their own), and the message was just awful. I couldn't bring myself to go through her profile. The stuff I read usually only needs minor tweaking, and a character note or two. I take something that already has substance, and just put the bows and ribbons on the package. I'm not sure I could deal with something that was written with even a hint of netspeak or fangirl Japanese.
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Feb 21, 2008 0:15:16 GMT -5
Post by AndrogynousMelon on Feb 21, 2008 0:15:16 GMT -5
You know what I'd like to see? WinryxEd fiction. Decent fiction. I have yet to find ONE.
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Feb 21, 2008 0:18:21 GMT -5
Post by Aindel on Feb 21, 2008 0:18:21 GMT -5
See, it's hard to work without making it past or AU or really, really depressing. I've been working on one for over a year now, but I'm stuck on details that won't allow me to go any further.
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Feb 21, 2008 0:46:27 GMT -5
Post by Rick Garcia on Feb 21, 2008 0:46:27 GMT -5
Bad fanfiction, hm? At least you haven't read My Immortal... I hope.
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Feb 21, 2008 1:42:27 GMT -5
Post by Aindel on Feb 21, 2008 1:42:27 GMT -5
.....? I think I've heard mention of something by that title, but I can't be sure. Refresh my memory?
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Feb 21, 2008 1:52:20 GMT -5
Post by Rick Garcia on Feb 21, 2008 1:52:20 GMT -5
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Feb 21, 2008 4:48:40 GMT -5
Post by alba on Feb 21, 2008 4:48:40 GMT -5
Is it sad that I laughed at the first chapter of that but couldn't bring myself to read the >30 chapters there? Is it even sadder that, in spite of the author's inability to write, I'm *still* annoyed that he/she got facts wrong and said Hogwarts is in England when it is, in fact in Scotland?
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