CANADIA

[blackmamba]

Yeah, they're going to build a wall. And you know who's going to build it? It SURE AIN'T the white man.

I'm sure if you had been born in Mexico, you'd do anything in your power to go to a better place, even if it meant crossing the border as an illegal; it's bad, I know, but these people want to LIVE. Not all of them have horrible intentions, you know.

The Mexican economy is almost directly split in half: if you're not rich, you're poor. Most of these people are maids and such for the rich, and if they aren't, they're the vendors on the street.

And they are taking jobs no one else wants, because they don't let their pride get in the way. You know who the first people on the site were after Hurricane Katrina? Illegals - they wanted to WORK regardless of pay, and then a group of evacuees had the gall to complain about how they were taking their jobs, and wanted the GOVERNMENT to provide them with transport so they could get their to work.

The illegals provided their OWN transport and they're as much evacuees as the Katrina victims.

And it's not just Mexico that immigrants are coming from.

[blackmamba]

And it's almost ironic. To become a citizen of the U.S. (according to my Chinese friend, who's aiming for citizenship), you have to memorize the constitution. Something along the lines of that.

Hell, the only part of that I know is "We the people" and that's about it. I bet that the majority of America doesn't even know it.

Not many kids in school can even name three secretaries of state.

[11]

I know I can't.

[Devil Ether]

The whole process needs to be revamped.

(not 'revamped' as in everyone must be vampires, but 'revamped as in... never mind)

[Trey]

for the last FUCKING time, I AM NOT SAYING IMMIGRATION IS A BAD THING GOD DAMN IT!


THE ILLEGALS SHOULD GO THE FUCK HOME BECAUSE THEY CAME HERE WITHOUT REALIZING THAT THEY'RE GOING TO FUCK UP OUR ECONOMY, AND THEY ARE SO ALL OF YOU ARE BEING DOUCHEBAGS, TELLING ME THAT IT'S GOOD.


also, If you didn't notice, I MENTIONED the natives, so fuck off. Yeah, we did that, but again, we just whiped them out, we didn't take all their furs and animals and give them to other people! So, the next time you guys think that mexican illegal imigration is a good thing, come on down to sunny FUCKING california, where it's mexico every day! FUCKHEADS.

[Devil Ether]

I didn't say illegal immigration is good. LEGAL immigration is good. The process that it takes to BECOME a legal immigrant is pretty fucked up.

[Jones]

trey said:

THEY'RE GOING TO FUCK UP OUR ECONOMY

I'm still not convinced you guys need the help. ;D

Not saying you were saying immigration is bad - just suggesting that people having jobs in one country and sending the money home to another is nothing new, and absolutely not limited to the US, or even developed nations. I'd go so far as to argue that it's beneficial to both parties - maybe not necessarily to "the economy", but most definitely to the people who are hiring them. They wouldn't do it otherwise. Argue all you want about hurting the economy, but you can be sure that if it were hurting business, they'd have been out a long time ago.

This is a pretty tiresome debate, but it's not fair when one party (immigrants) has to shoulder the blame for something as abstract as "ruining the economy". They're not the only ones benefiting from getting jobs there, but they're probably the easiest to target.

(Uncharitable thought for the day: kicking illegal immigrants out of the US and back to Mexico will probably do wonders for the productivity of foreign manufacturing plants there.)

devilether said:

The whole process needs to be revamped.

(not 'revamped' as in everyone must be vampires, but 'revamped as in... never mind)

Hee! Nooo, you had it right the first time. XD Everyone must be made vampires. It is the only way!

[Devil Ether]

Good God, that would... just rock... so hard.

[Trey]

you're right, we'll solve all of our problems my turning everyone into vampires! Then we wouldn't NEED an economy! =D Way to go!

[Devil Ether]

My friends, I do believe we have a mission...

[Trey]

*sticks on vamp fangs*

[Trey]

Also, I'm going to work on this new idea, cheaper than a wall. I'm going to build a moat of lava with lavaproof crocodiles in it... that spew sharks from their mouths. And those sharks breath fire.

[11]

*sigh* There's nothing like a good debate.

If we turned everyone into vampirates then who would we have to bite? D: I motion to have a human farm so that we can still have nice fresh blood.

[Devil Ether]

Also, I'm going to work on this new idea, cheaper than a wall. I'm going to build a moat of lava with lavaproof crocodiles in it... that spew sharks from their mouths. And those sharks breath fire.

Oh HELLS YES! Screw my liberal morals, I want a freaking lava moat.

[ariah]

I still think Trey is looking at it all wrong. D=

I mean if we tell all the illegal immigrants to go home then where will I get -real- mexican food? D=

And what about when we break things? China makes all our goods, we break 'em and then all the mexicans come and fix them for us. Mayn, if not for the illegals I wouldn't be watchin' TV or playing Barbies no more. D=<

(Lawl, before anyone "flames" me for making "racist" comments towards the Mexicans I should probably state that I'm Mexican and can say that crap.)

No more. . .? I've been talking to Bubbles for too long.